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Na 10 jaar al deze ellende voor een paspoort.

 
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Hallo allemaal , ik zit met verbazing de verhalen te lezen nee , voor mij nooit geen Egyptenaar meer . Ik zal proberen mijn verhaal te vertellen al valt me dit nog erg zwaar.
 
In 2004 heb ik Ayman leren kennen in Sharm tijdens de vriendschap die we hadden tot 2006 heeft hij mij nooit om geld gevraagd dat leek me een goed teken en toen hij mij ten huwelijk vroeg en ik zei een orfi huwelijk ? werd hij boos tuurlijk niet antwoordde hij zo gezegd zo gedaan met zijn hele familie zijn we dan ook getrouwd in Alexandrië met een huwelijkscontract met mijn voorwaarden waar hij mee akkoord ging.
 
 
Oktober 2007 kwam hij naar Nederland en ons leven samen begon . Een baan vinden was lastig maar lukte hem , heimwee had hij zeker maar door veel te skypen met zijn familie leek het wel goed te gaan Zo ging ons leven samen door , een rustig leven met een makkelijke sociale man die mij als een koningin behandelde , door tot januari 2015 , de maand waarin Ayman zijn paspoort kreeg, het had ons 10 jaar gekost om het geld ervoor te sparen doordat we elke maand 300 euro stuurden naar zijn familie maar goed hij had zijn paspoort nu dan toch .
 
In juni 2015 was hij op familie bezoek en in augustus kwam ik naar Sharm om samen met hem ons 10 jaar huwelijk te vieren dat was een super week hierna ging ik terug naar Nederland en hij zou 10 september volgen maar , Nadat ik twee dagen thuis was , kreeg ik een whatsapp berichtje van hem dat hij in de maand voordat ik naar Sharm kwam getrouwd was met een Egyptische uit zijn woonplaats Alexandrië . Achteraf ben ik erachter gekomen via sociale media geschiedenis ( die hij vergeten was te wissen ) dat hij gewoon een dubbelleven had geleden en eigenlijk al sinds 2012 op zoek was naar een “Egyptische “bruid en sinds september 2014 er een gevonden had en met haar bezig was , maar ze toen nog getrouwd was en pas in januari 2015 beschikbaar was voor een huwelijk .
 
Zelf ben ik nog in shock en kan het gewoon niet geloven Ik heb hem nog een keer gesproken , zijn stem is het zelfde maar hetgeen hij zegt is vreemd voor mij Hij zegt dat hij terug moest komen naar Egypte van zijn vader en daar trouwen en kinderen krijgen maar ik geloof er niets van . 
 
Wat ik wel weet is dat ik verder moet maar weet na 10 jaar even niet hoe en al deze ellende om een paspoort ?   

 
 

Bezness Cyber Monster

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Ladies and girls targeted by Egyptian love rats!
You think you are in relationship, but your boyfriends continue to act as if they were still single!
• Stop thinking that my Mohamed is different!
• Stop wearing “rose-tinted” glasses!
• Stop ignoring signs and warnings from other people!
• Open your eyes, and stop being blind in love!

 
IF SOMETHING LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEN IT PROBABLY IS! It is common sense as nobody can love like a Beznesser, in reality he is an accomplished liar and cheat.

 
These scammers will always be successful as long as we, European-educated, pragmatic women keep losing our senses after a few days of good sex with an Egyptian during a holiday romance.
They target our loneliness and emotional emptiness and we are their easy targets for money and passports, because we trust them!
 
They are masters in manipulating people and we must face the truth. We are too naive to see it, all of us, both young and those of a more mature age. They say what we want to hear and sell us the illusion of love and happiness.
 
I was targeted by an Egyptian Man for money, a flat and an EU passport. It was so nice to feel like I was in a relationship, so special, loved, sweet talked, complemented and simply feeling pretty and happy! I really wanted very much to believe that I was his special one and so I ignored all the red flags in my head.
 
When I discovered his true intentions I simply couldn’t believe it. He was in relationship with 2 other women at the same time and had many more just for sex. My beautiful illusion was destroyed and, the bad taste stayed with me for a long time. I have learnt my lesson very well. Finally time helped me to forget. I was angry with myself, just how could I trust such a liar! Many people knew his true face but nobody told me.
 
From that moment on, whenever I see a Bezness in action, I try to warn victims about what sort of man he really is.
Can you imagine what sort of on-line feedback I get from these European women?
 
Just a few examples:

1. You are a psycho, my Man is different! Prove it!
2. If you can’t have him, nobody can? He left you and chose me, you can’t accept it!
3. I know you tried to have him, but he sent you away and this is your revenge on my boyfriend!
4. You are a hacker attacking my decent Man!
5. Why do you tell me this, I don’t want to know, you are a liar!
6. It is not your business, F…. Off!
7. Don’t say that! He may have acted like that in the past, but since he has been with me, he has been faithful. I am his one and only love.
 
Then I just feel like a Bezness Cyber Monster fighting with decent Egyptian Men, accusing them and I am close to giving up!


 
Girls, you don’t want to know the truth, until suddenly your eyes are opened by a terrible shock!
 

• Please, >> don’t ignore what other people say! >> don’t ignore the signs you see! >> her friends, do not say “it is not my problem, if she is that stupid”. She is not stupid, she is just been completely brainwashed, “blind in love”, she is a victim of love fraud.
   
These signs usually are:
• Whenever he calls you “Babe”, without using your name, you are probably not the only one!
 

• Whenever he says “We can’t go public on FB with our relationship, as I may lose my job in the Hotel!” This is crap!!! You are probably not the only one!
 

• He often says “We can’t talk tonight as the connection is bad / my data is over / the Wi-Fi is not working / I have a night dive everyday / I am too tired to talk, text me”. It is just a good excuse as tonight he is in a relationship with another woman;
 

• When he starts to control you, getting offended for no reason, telling you to keep your relationship just between the two of you, telling his ex-fiancee is simply jealous and wants revenge, telling he has been badly hurt by women in the past, saying “although many women want to have sex with me, I refuse because I am a decent guy and you are my only love” this is also a red flag!
 

• Saying “I am concerned about my family, they have problems / I have to give money to my brother who is getting married / or my sister is getting a divorce, and I have to pay the lawyers”. He just wants your sympathy and your money.
 

• Beware when he puts pressure on you if he says “EU Tourist Visa lasts for only 3 months and then what happens to us? We will be still apart! I need a different passport to be with you”. You may have no money, but you do have a great asset in the form of an EU passport, so don’t get married this way as it is simply an immigration fraud!
 

• Saying “Sorry but we can’t meet up as I have just heard that my grandma has passed away and I will have to attend her funeral. You should cancel your flight.” Watch out as a sudden change of plans probably means two girlfriends have arranged to visit at the same time and one has to be put off!

 

• If you are involved with a tourist guide, a diving instructor, or any hotel staff, it is highly probable that you may be, or already are, the victim of emotional fraud or a Bezness.
Remember! A Smartphone is a liar’s best friend, as he can send his sweet messages such as ” I love you”, “I miss you” even though he is lying-in-bed with another woman! Permanent access to the internet is a real Bezness Cyber Monster, supporting bad guys in bewitching our brains.

 
I know at least a few decent Muslim Egyptians working in tourism, but they are just exceptions confirming the rule, married and living with their families and children, decent guys. Single ones, they always declare, they want to marry an Egyptian women, as that is their culture, religion and tradition.
   

Red flag: he works for the tourist industry.

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Red flag: he works for the tourist industry. Hotel = tourist industry.
 
I am also in a situations very similar to this, but i have lived in cairo and met the men there. I also am here reading this because I am confused about if he is one or not.
I just did a test on him. Do not be available for him for a few days, or weeks, and see how your love will stand the test of time.

 
My story starts off with one egyptian guy beating me and a few days later falling for this one. everything is coming together; or frequent fights and all happened after i agreed to take further steps. (engagement) he has so many dreams and goals for us and it all seems too good to be true. he spends his day at the coffee shop and still dont know what kind of business he is running.
i am learning a lot though.

 
my advice, do no believe it. they are masters of seduction, know their women psychology because they have nothing better to do with their time at the cafe but read into psychology of women and sex, and they are amazing lovers. all of these are beautiful to a western women when our men tend to be colder and “bad boy” like.

 
The egyptian man will make you feel like a women. they will know your emotional and your needs and ask what you eat, that they love your smell, that you will never have to work a day in your life, that a women should never be on her hands and knees cleaning toilets while there is a man in the house. All of these things to make you think that you are GOLDEN.
But all of these things come with a price. Being obedient and respectful. You will soon find that some things that normal men in the west will not even flinch at, the egyptian will say you are disrespecting him.
Then here is where you mind starts to play tricks on you: you start to weigh out his PROS and CONS. Well its only once he yelled, he usually is so nice and caring.
These episodes will increase. When you finally commit to him; he will change.

 
An expression i like to say: even if you feed the wolf, it will still return to the woods.
 
Can’t take away societal, family, and religious lessons your man learned away. FROM any person for that matter. YOU are a product of your environment, peppered with your own judgments and perceptions of reality, culture, and religion (even if you follow it or not).
 
Run… time heals. You will forget. Run while you can.

 
 

I don’t want to be anyone’s “SHAMEFUL PARTNER”

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I met this Egyptian man. He’s from Alexandria, Egypt but at the time, he worked in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
 
He claimed he loved me and I started to feel the same for him. He was a real sweet talker. Any doubts I had in my mind, he would ease with promises he would allow me to live life as I knew it in the United States. When I started researching life in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, I told him I wouldn’t be able to travel to KSA. So he made up this story of how he was threatened with prison because his employer’s wife made charges against him that were untrue about sexual advances. He “ran away” to Egypt, so then he wanted me to go visit him.
 
A few years into our conversations, he got tired of waiting for me saying he was a man with needs so he ended up marrying his cousin, had their son last year and was gone for 10 months online.
When he came back, he said he was detained for manifestations in Alexandria. (Protests) He claimed he didn’t love his wife and was unhappy. The research I did online suggested that if he wasn’t willing to introduce me to his family, he had ulterior motives with money, visa, or sex. Maybe all of the three things.
 
I asked to meet his mother and his family. He told me he didn’t want the confrontation between his family and me to get ugly so he suggested confronting them on his own.
 
His plan was to get a flat in Cairo where he would get work. We could get married there without the knowledge of his family because they would try to stop the marriage if they knew.
Later on, he would let me meet his family who would eventually accept me because now we’re married and they can’t do anything about it.

 
What I found out from various sites is that the possibility of this was because he was ashamed to have his family meet me. An honorable Egyptian man would have argued for my case to be married with him and defend my honor and demand respect for me from his family and friends. He wouldn’t try to hide me.
When he said he was facing jail time in KSA in the beginning of our conversations, he said he needed 10,000 EGP so he can make bail. I told him I didn’t have money like that. So he moved onto the visa part.

 

When we get married, he told me he would help me out with my bills here in America and help me attain a house. I told him the US Embassy wouldn’t allow me to marry him since he’s already married. So he moved onto the sex part. He told me he would find me a flat in Cairo where he works and take a vacation for a week so we can be together. I don’t want to be anyone’s “SHAMEFUL PARTNER” so I told him to stay married to his *cencored* in Egypt and to leave me alone.
 
He hasn’t been online for 3 weeks now. I guess his love for me was that shallow to him that he doesn’t care to fight for me. I warned him though. I told him I wasn’t his typical dumb American bunny as they refer to their victims in Egypt.


Moving on with life as I know it. Always yearning to learn about other cultures and languages. I’m happy with my life despite the “wasted years” with him online. It wasn’t really wasted. I felt I learned from it and hope that others will learn from my experience and what I did to resolve it.

 
 

`Die van mij is anders`

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Ik woon nu ongeveer 10 jaar in Egypte.
 
Toen ik 17 was ging ik voor het eerst op vakantie naar Hurghada. Werd verliefd, ging een aantal keren terug op vakantie. Toen ik 20 werd, wou ik echt verhuizen naar Egypte , niet alleen omdat ik verliefd was, maar ook voor het warme klimaat en het “makkelijke” leven, thuis in België voelde ik mij alleen en een buitenstaander, op mijn ouders kon ik ook niet rekenen.

 
Al snel vond ik een leuke job als animatrice in een hotel, mijn toenmalig vriendje vond dit niet leuk, dus heb ik al snel deze relatie verbroken. Ik was jong, wou doen wat ik wou, achteraf bekeken zal hij mij ook wel hier en daar bedrogen hebben (met vrouwen en financieel) dus conclusie: goed opgelost.
Heb toen 4 jaar als animatrice gewerkt en nog eens 2 jaar een relatie gehad met een andere Egyptenaar, toen ik daarvan merkte dat ik slechter behandeld werd dan ik verwachtte,heb ik deze relatie ook verbroken. Dit vertel ik vlotjes maar heeft mij zeker op de momenten zelf pijn gedaan.

 
Toen ik na ongeveer 2 jaar mijn huidige “vriend” tegen kwam, is het eigenlijk pas slecht met mij beginnen gaan: ik was echt verliefd, dacht dat hij dat ook was. Alhoewel dat alles gewoon duidelijk was, hij niet anders is dan al die anderen, was ik dom en blind verliefd en dacht dus echt “mijn Mohamed is anders” .. Niet dus, in de ogen van een Egyptenaar ben ik gewoon een goedkope hoer, uit een slechte familie, die ze dus kunnen gebruiken. Vernederen zoveel ze willen en waar ze geen respect voor hoeven te hebben, ook al is het zo en weet ik dat, kan nog steeds niet geloven dat wij als mensen zo wreed kunnen zijn.
 
We woonden al snel samen, al had ik steeds mijn eigen appartement.We woonden namelijk in het huis van zijn vorige vriendin, waarin hij gratis mocht blijven wonen. Ook zij had een aantal jaren geleden geld gegeven voor zijn eigen zaak op te richten, daarvoor was hij ober in een hotel.. Hij heeft me dit allemaal eerlijk verteld. Het voelde niet goed.
Ik zou terug verhuizen naar mijn appartement, ik vond dat hij maar eens mocht gaan vertellen tegen die ex dat hij een nieuwe vaste vriendin had of dat hij in ieder geval uit het huis moest gaan, maar hahaha.. Wat dom van me : zijn status: een villa , zou hij nooit opgeven, tot we op een bepaalde moment zo’n hevige ruzie kregen , hij kreeg namelijk telefoon van haar, zei vroeg hem of hij al getrouwd was of een vriendin had waarop hij nee nee antwoordde, ik zat er gewoon naast..!!

 
Ik was verliefd maar dit kon ik niet slikken, heb haar toen zelf opgebeld en verteld dat ik een aantal weken in haar huis had gewoond maar dat ik vond dat dit niet kon. Hun relatie was echt verbroken doch wou zij natuurlijk niet dat er in haar huis een ander meisje woonde, en god weet wat voor feestjes er nog allemaal werden gegeven.. Ze heeft haar huis toen verkocht snel daarna heb ik toen geprobeerd om begrip te hebben voor de situatie. Zij was in de 50, hij had geld van haar gekregen toen in de tijd, bij mij valt er niks te rapen en bovendien ben ik veel jonger dacht ik, wij hebben een echt relatie , dacht ik.
 
Na 3 jaar een zogezegd goede relatie te hebben, kreeg ik opeens telefoontje van een vriend. Hij vertellende dat mijn vriend zich was gaan verloven in zijn Dorp met een Egyptische..Ik heb hem daar met geconfronteerd, was natuurlijk niet waar.
 
Een paar dagen daarna kwam ik erachter dat ik zwanger was. Ik vertelde het hem en hij werd gek van woede, ons kind wilde hij niet hebben, een bastaard kind ! Misschien heb ik op dat moment de verkeerde keuze gemaakt , maar ik Zag hem graag en ik hield mezelf voor de gek met de gedachte dat hij mij ook graag zag , ik zou mijn kindje houden.
 
Hij is toen toch niet getrouwd maar de relatie zou nooit meer worden wat die was. Omdat hij nooit “echt” was, ik was een scharrel , een poppetje met wie hij kon showen als het nodig was.
 
Ben in België gaan bevallen, na 6 weken al terug gekeerd, meneer wou een DNA test, heeft die gekregen.. Op zijn manier ziet hij onze dochter graag, financieel draai ik er voor op, al geloofd hij zelf dat hij dat doet..
Ben een aantal maanden in België geweest en voelde mij daar niet goed, heb niet gestudeerd, kan enkel op mezelf rekenen en financieel is het voor mij en mijn dochter hier beter dan daar..heb toen afspraak gemaakt met hem dat ik terug naar Egypte zou komen, zou werken, bij hem wonen, voor een jaar, zodat ik zou kunnen sparen om na een jaar terug naar België te kunnen gaan met geld in mijn zak voor meubeltjes, waarborg..

 
Ik was altijd zo fier op mezelf, geen dure maar mooie kleding, altijd fris en opgemaakt, hier in Egypte heeft mijn dochter het goed, kan naar de cribbe, mooie kleding , speelgoed, zwemmen, de zon, haar papa. Ben zo bang voor als dit jaar om is , heb op de een of andere manier een job gevonden toen voor een jaar, een Ibo contract met de VDAB, waardoor ik niet slecht verdien nu , ook dit is straks voorbij ..
 
Hij helpt ons nu wel verder maar wetende dat je eigenlijk niet welkom bent omdat hij liever wil genieten van het leven dan deze last mee te dragen, wetende dat je kind geen grootouders heeft, doet allemaal pijn.. Hij behandeld mij nu slecht, laat me weten dat hij ons liever ziet vertrekken dan komen..
 
Voor de buiten wereld is alles zo mooi maar het is echt een hel, vernederend voel ik me, en rot dat ik me niet sterk genoeg voel om gewoon te vertrekken, ben zo bang voor het onbekende, wil niet in armoede leven , bang om door de zwarte sneeuw te moeten, en verdrietig omdat ik niet weet dat mijn dochter gelukkig zal zijn, met mij, zonder haar papa…het zou eenvoudig moeten zijn, gewoon vertrekken maar op de 1 of andere manier voel ik me daar niet sterk genoeg voor..
 
Door al die vernederingen voel ik me echt gebroken, voel me niks waard..en toch zet ik elke ochtend mijn masker weer op en begint er weer een dag waarop in denk , komaan, nog effe sparen en het kan, totdat ik weer maar eens slecht behandelt wordt, dan komt het verdriet weer naar boven, en voel ik me helemaal verlamd..

 
 

Beware of orfi-marriage in Egypt

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Hello, my sister met a man from Egypt about a year ago and she fell in love with him. She met him online and she has traveled 4 times to meet him and also live with him. I don’t trust online relationships and never liked this man.

The problem now is that she married this man in Egypt while she was married to her first husband. She was separated from her first husband but not officially divorced. Since she was not officially divorced to marry in Egypt, I believe she married by an ORFI marriage which I have read in the internet that is not legal in Egypt.
 

Just a few days ago she called me to tell me that she is in trouble because the lawyer that marry them somehow found out that she is still married to her first husband. She told me that the lawyer said that she could go to jail in Egypt for this. Can she really go to prison for getting married by an ORFI marriage while still being married to her first husband?
 
I thought ORFI marriages don’t have any value in Egypt and so she should not have to go to prison. Now the lawyer told her that he can void the ORFI marriage but he neeed 5 thousand dollars to do that and she can then leave Egypt and return home otherwise she will be going to prison for 10 yrs.
 
The lawyer want some relative of
my sister to bring the money to Egypt and meet in a hotel and do the exchange of my sister for the money. I believe this is all a scam by the lawyer to get the 5 thousand dollars or is my sister really in trouble.
 
How can I help her? She said that we have about a week to get the money and for us it not easy to get that amount of money. Please give me some advices as to how I can help my sister.
 
She has asked me not to contact the embassy or the police for help. Thank you.

 
 

I told him I was expecting a baby from him……I never saw him again.

 
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I read all the article and all of your comments that scars me a little bit… because i live in Hurghada and i am very crazy about an egyptian man working there as a ophthalmologist in a hospital we met during summer time i was walking normally in the streets and he was following me with his (huge) car then he stopped and told me that he found me beautiful blah blah …

 
Well i felt alone in that moment and ageed to go drinking something with him, he told me almost everything about his life in that hour after we met.

 
I saw him almost everyday he took care about me, offers me flowers all the time, telling me all the sweet words i wanted to hear, giving me a lot of presents and so on …

 
So summer has gone and i had to go back in Belgium and i stayed in my country 3 months but i was missing him a lot i thought about him all the time he was calling me everyday from Egypt we used to stay on the phone all the night long then one day he sent me an airplane ticket for Cairo to see his family i was the happiest woman of the world i agreed right away so the day came… i was in Cairo Airport waiting for him he finally showed up after three long hours…
 
When he saw me he was very glad he took me in his arms , so we went in his car and we were leading to his family house we arrived at his family’s house i saw her mother, sisters, brothers, father , cousins etc.

 
I stayed in that house for 7 nights but i got soooo borred without going out and without seeing him a lot… he was sleeping upstairs and me downstairs , one night i came upstairs in his bedroom i wanted to talk with me and to tell him i was pregant …

 
So i told him i was expecting a baby from him when i first tell him this he completely changed , he was being rude and violent but there was another problem i was pregnant (without marriage) he told me to get married very soon i didn’t agree i didn’t want to get married that fast (i needed time…) we had a fight and in the morning i left (without his knowledge) i took my suitcase and took a car to go to hurghada.

 
Once i arrived in Hurghada i called him and told me to come here but he didn’t want..

 
So after staying three days in Hurghada i took a plane and got back home .

 
I never saw him again …
 

Just find out as much as you can before you marry.

 
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I have been married to Egyptian for the past 7+ years. I paid for all his visa, residence and recently his citizenship in the US. The ink was not even dry from his citizenship paper and about a month ago he announced to me that he planned to marry a second wife. He left the US on October 10th, 2013. I found messages between him and his “fiance” saying that they would marry on October 12th. Before he left he tried to convince me that he was not getting married this trip. I know different. He admitted he married in message chat a few weeks ago. Now he says he does not have a second wife. He did not contact me until almost 3 weeks after he arrived in Egypt he has never done that before he always let me know as soon as he arrived and gave me a phone number. I asked him about this and he said that he did not have a phone or internet. I said to him you were on the internet last week and he asked how I knew. I told him that I saw his Facebook postings. I asked him how he was
doing busisness without a phone, he said his partner is the one doing business for him. This man is attached to his phone I know he has a phone there.

 
The worst part is I was reading some blogs and there were some women who talked about finding out that they were second wives, but did not know it. I believe my husband was already married, then married me and now took on a third wife. He did everything they do when they are hiding the first wife from the foreign wife. He did not tell his parents at first that we were married and then the second time I went to visit he said while we were at his family’s house we could not sleep together. I had to stay in his sister-in-laws room, etc.

 
This man has taken so much money from me. About a year ago I took a well paying job in China, he said that he wanted to start a business and that he would travel between China and Egypt for business. As soon as I was established in my job he traveled to Egypt claiming his mother was very ill and I helped him with all her Doctor bills. He claimed she needed a specialist and that it would cost several thousand dollars. I was sending him money the whole time he was there including paying for all his trips. He had a good job in the US and he used the Family Leave Act to be with his mother. He did go back to the US and continued to work and came to visit me in China and start buying electronics to take back to Egypt. He took as much money as he could. He did not tell me he had stopped working months ago and all the bills back home were falling behind. Not to mention he was making arrangements to marry the new wife. Apparently the dowry was $40,000 US dollars. I asked him if her pussy was made of gold, he said that since he is already married and wants children that he had to pay, now I realize that I was paying for her. I told him that she is a prostitute and her family are her pimps. A surrogate mother in the US does not cost that much, I told him he was stupid for agreeing to that.

 

Now I am losing my home and have been working just to catch up on all the bills he left behind. Not to mention he left my kids 16 and 20 by themselves, in a house that we are losing because of him. He came to China and is here now I have not told him were I work or live. He has contacted me via Skype and wanted me to continue helping him with his business. I told him absolutely not. I will not support him and his wife/wives in Egypt. He says I am crazy and that he doesn’t have any other wife, but me. I know this is not the truth.
 
He was carrying on a relationship with this girl since he had gone to Egypt last year. I had seen messages from her. He and she both claimed that she was a man. I told him/her that we were still married in every sense. He claimed to stop talking to him/her and then when I went to the US in October I found messages from him/her. I had those messages translated by a friend who told me they were getting married as soon as he arrived in Egypt. He told his “fiance” that he was not staying with me while I was in the US and had his friends cover for him, he in fact, was with me until the day he left to Egypt. He lies to her as much as he has lied to me to get what he wants.
 
Since he left on Oct. 10 his car has been repossessed for non-payment, his license has been suspended for not paying a ticket and he has left me so far behind with everything else. The worst part for me is that he and I had planned living in China for another year or two, because of our “future” plans together, then he pulls this. We were supposed to be working together. Now because of all the bills I have to stay for work and be away from my children and family. He did not care how he hurt me or my kids. Now I am trying to pick up the pieces. He even went shopping with me before he left for Egypt and bought clothes for his “niece” and now I realize he had the nerve and odacity to be shopping for his new wife right in front of me.
 
He has no shame to his game, even saying that I would never leave him because I care about him. I have been with this man almost 8 years and he was able to scam me and the US goverment for that matter. I found that they advise each other on how to scam us. He has a very good friend that did the same to his American wife and then went back to his first wife in Germany. They are always on the prowl, one is not enough and taking from one women is not enough. They have absolutely no conscience. Not for their victims and they have no remorse for what they do. They think that it is perfectly fine because we are foreign women. They do not respect their Egyptian wife/wives either because they lie to them also.
 

The worst thing is about 3 years ago I noticed a real change in him and recently found out that he is a crystal meth user. He told his “fiance” that he uses and she said she would not accept that, however, still wanted to marry him. Up until two days ago he wanted to “borrow” money from me. I have cut him off from any communication. He is a heavy drug user and continues to use even in Egypt. He claims he is in “the heaven” there with so much drugs available to him.

 
Contrary to what he believes, I am divorcing him. I know that he will get what is coming to him. What goes around comes around. I think that this type of person is very dangerous for the fact that he had so much patience in waiting until he became a citizen to show his true colors. I wasted 8 years and so much money it is embarassing. I was married for the right reasons, he used everything he could against me. He was abusive in the beginning (until I pulled an “Enough”) and was verbally abusive the whole marriage.

 
I posted this for anyone considering marrying an Egyptian (or Middle Eastern), know that they advise each other. They use very suave ways and make you believe they love you as soon as they have you, they use and abuse you. Until they see they can’t use you anymore then they drop you like a hot potato. They are compulsive liars. I wish I knew back when I first met him the things I know about how to tell if they are already married. Know that no matter how sincere they seem about paying you back they will take more than you even thought you could give. They do not adapt to other cultures, I’ve seen that not only with him but with many of his friends. They are very cunning and deceiptful.

 
I don’t like to generalize about any one group of people and am sure there are men in Egypt that are not like this, but all the people that I have known that married them this has happened.

 
Everyone is free to do what they want. I am a professional woman and it happened to me. It can happen to anyone.
 

I wish everyone the best, just find out as much as you can before you marry.

 
Thanks I needed to get this out.
 
 

Fooled by an Egyptian man.

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I am Arabic and been fooled by an egyptian man. We met in one of the Gulf states where we I work. When I met him he was staying illegaly and had no work. He charmed me and showed me the “kindness mask” – now i know. I went to Egypt with him to marry, he introduced me to his mom,brother and sister. They rent an old scary apartment in Ain Shams – very poor neighbourhood.

He changed 360 degrees after we signed the marriage certificate in the ministry of justice in Cairo – he started his abusive behaviour right at the contract signature. no need to say that all his family and his friend are all into it with him in ”cheating” those poor women – yes, there are many before me and sure after me –

I went back to the gulf state to make his vis – i was his sponsor because I have a good job and situtation there – he was calling me everyday on the net and puting psychological pressure on me to expedite his visa and to get rid of my cat and to wear the islamic cover and to…and to…never ending “orders”.

I was tired and fed up before even he joins me back to the country and even wanted to end the marriage while he was still in Egypt cause the emotional torture was unbarable. When I delayed his visa, he called my older brother and started saying lies about me – he didnt know my brother – he was implying that I was pregnant and got rid of the babay and went to Egypt to marry – the WORST thing that one can accuse a muslim woman of: adultery,abortion….luckily my brother knows me and he knew i would NEVER do such horrible things – but…my brother pushed me to expedite the visa and bring my husband. I did.

 

Once he came back….I let you imagine…emotional and verbal abuse, cheating with soooo many other women, belitteling, screaming and yelling in private as well as public places, try to take my car, my money, my house…all+ evrything. I was the bread winner, he was staying home: spending his mornings in the building swimming pool (hitting on single women there old and young – i knew after), i come back from work he is rarely at home and comes back 8pm and then 10pm and then midnight and then 3am and after one month: he even wanted to spend the night out but the “person” who was supposed to call him to go out did not.

 

All this happened during barely 3 months of marriage.
He started harrasing me emotionally more and more and more, cheating on me openly, women calling him at home late nights and weekends…etc
I asked him to divorce me many times – in muslim countried, man has to agree on divorce – he refused everytime saying (i am quoting him: so easily, I will not and I will torture you and marry other women and make you miserable and when i decide to divorce you , i will first get my ”rights” first.
One day, he bought 10 litres of petrol and brought it to the house and said to me: a little petrol a cigarett and …poutch….all finish!
I called the police, press charges,made a restarining order, cancelled his visa and cut all contact with him.
Now he is in deep sh***t. He has no visa in the country, he is staying on prosecution order waiting for judgement.
I also opened a divorce file at court to get my divorce legaly by giving up on all my rights (muslim men need to give women some money when divorce).

 

God… after the police took him i doscovered horrors in his belongings – his personal computer and papaers—he is married to a 63 years old (he is 33 yo) american women in Egypt and left her without notice or goodbye after one year and ran away to this gulf state – i found a letter written to another women where he is saying that he never loved her and had a plan with her that he executed and that he did noting wrong and he is happy that she loves “his son”!!!!!!
I found pictures with soo many other women from all ages old and less young…ssome in pornographic situations…
The man is a complete fraud, a looser, a liar, a jurk, a thief, a criminal…etc

 

This is what I know. I am sure what is hidden is even more terrible and scary.

I am Arabic and in the Arab world unfortunately this nationality is a red flag – to Mido I say, not only the men working in tourist places are dangerous and cheater – mine was a school teacher.

Playing with people’s feelings is a crime infront of God – it is unforgivable!

 

Like someone told me: when a man accept to live as a liability on another person especially a woman and more especially on his wife, this man can do anything because simply he LOST his manhood.

 

 

 

 

 

My time with an Egyptian

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As with most of these false relationships I met him online but with no intention of starting a relationship. After 6 weeks of mailing we met in person. He did not live far from me. He was the most charismatic, charming young man, 10 yrs younger. Within a few weeks we started a relationship. He had me utterly spellbound by his charm, manners and general affection. I have never met a man so brilliant at being charming, entrancing even.

 

Only a few weeks later he asked me to buy him clothes. My heart sank because things had moved so fast and there were already doubts in my mind, this really didn’t seem right. I refused and he said he was joking but still it wasn’t correct.  Generally, he got me to pay for things like food, transport, cigarettes. Over 18 mths he asked me for an ipad, a phone, a camera, to get a bank loan and to rent commercial premises. He always enquired or tried to ascertain my earnings. The most obvious and extravagant items were marriage and a child.  

 

I was confused about the so called relationship, he would visit then go then be hard to contact, not reply to texts or answer the phone, then he would send gushing texts of how much he missed me and needed me but with only the explanation that he had been visiting family or working hard for his `Uncle’ as to why he couldnt send just 1 text.  He also spent a lot of time out of the country on visits. When we would meet he would be so loving that I would forget all the odd behaviour because surely a man that sings you to sleep and wakes to put the covers back over you isn’t a total lying bastard? Then hed be gone, no texts, no answer and Id be lost again. Wondering what I did wrong and what I have to do to make it right. Doubting, thinking, going back over conversations, things just didn’t add up. Was this all because he had to keep me secret from his strict family? Or was it something else? I questioned why he wanted so many things from me.

 

I started to research on the internet and I found hundreds of stories yet I still didn’t want to believe. I was helped by others, listened to and Im grateful they helped me see. He had all the marks of a beznesser. Everything, every tactic, every line, phrase. I broke away from him eventually. I even accused him of being a beznesser which he of course denied. He kept trying to contact me for 8 mths after as I wouldn’t change my number (why should I) I never answered. It took an incredible amount of time to break free from him. He got little out of me financially and I was fortunate.. I hear stories of women spending years of their lives and their life savings on these game players and I truly understand how it can happen. Anyone that tuts at this then ask yourself why would anyone do so if not under some kind of influence or altered state of mind?? It is a type of hypnotism, brainwashing. They are trained conmen and unless you have been in the same situation you cannot imagine.    

 

 

Im no longer the same, I was betrayed like never before. Being with an actor, a master liar will damage a woman badly. The emotional carnage of being with a conman is very hard to get over. Its not a normal relationship where over time things perhaps sadly go wrong and there is a parting, an end. This man singled me out and I was to be a step , a ladder. An investment.  He felt nothing and lied a lot.

 

If you are involved with a man from one of these countries (Egypt is just one) you may think at first you have found someone extraordinary, like someone from a fairytale but Im quessing 99%  its not. For your heart, your dignity,  your sanity, stay well away from them. If a man treated his sister like this, that man could end up suffering serious harm and remember no genuine Egyptian man will ask you for a penny and certainly not presume to start a relationship of any kind. Please educate yourself on these codes they have within their family, you will see that by their treatment, you are not being classed the same.  In a way Im glad I went through this I learned a lot and I see people from his country and culture differently, I wised up. I know much more than I did then.

 

From the first paragraph he is clearly a user and is out to take from me and you will be amazed to learn that he lives in 2 countries, mine and his own. He lives in my wealthy UK city and studies at its university, with some distant family nearby and goes back home frequently to stay for long periods (possibly visa conditions) and visiting other women. I believe he is married and has children. He exploits women (there are/have been others) and searches for his visa wife (he admitted to me that his student visa was running out and he needed to marry) With his visa running out he deployed bezness tactics… or was it  for the sport, the fun of it, free romance and/ or money using women that are unsuspecting and trusting. Or both, why not? In their eyes we are asking for trouble.  If you think you found your Arab Prince, you haven’t, walk away, they do not respect you or your country.   

 

 

 

 

 

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